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Religious Extremists, Part 1

08 Sep
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Since Rosie O’Donnell declared that Christian extremists were as dangerous as Muslim extremists, it seems to have become an official talking-point of American politics. I’ve heard media talking heads say that Christianity and Islam are the same: not all Muslims are terrorists, not all Christians proselytize.

Naturally, telling someone there’s a free gift of eternal salvation available to all is strikingly similar to blowing up yourself along with a bus load of people, or two trade towers. Why didn’t we see that before? In perspective, we can all now see that every Billy Graham event was as damaging to America as 9/11. Yet the American military doesn’t seem to be able to track down one old man in the mountains of North Carolina. I smell conspiracy. How did we not realize this when Graham called his events the most politically incorrect word: “Crusades!” Oh, the horror of extreme Christians!

George W. Bush promoted the idea that Islam is a religion of peace. What about that sneaky worldwide trend of violent extremists rising up within Islam? We’re told that every religion has extremists, but it is no reflection on the religion or the people who follow it. But especially Christians.

Today a Christian extremist is in the news again.

A small US church says it will defy international condemnation and go ahead with plans to burn copies of the Koran on the 9/11 anniversary.

The top US commander in Afghanistan warned troops’ lives would be in danger if the Dove World Outreach Center in Florida went through with the plan.

Muslim countries, the US government and Nato have also hit out at the plan.

But organiser, Pastor Terry Jones said: “We must send a clear message to the radical element of Islam.”

The US government, NATO, even General Petraeus have spoken against this man. Petraeus warned that the action could cause violence “not just in Kabul, but everywhere in the world.”

The Huffington Post calls this “our own home-grown variety of dangerous extremism.”

The State Department calls him “un-American.”

I’m not arguing that this guy is correct – or that he’s incorrect – in what he’s doing. But I think it’s important that we get down to what is happening here. Like the conversations at Jim Taggart’s wedding reception, no one is willing to name what is going on here: Terrorism.

Muslims burn an effigy of Pastor Terry Jones who may burn a copy of the Koran

Crowds of Muslims in Afghanistan are chanting “Death to America,” and burned an effigy of the pastor – who as of yet, hasn’t done anything. The Obama administration has called on Americans to join these protests against this American pastor.

And yet, less than a year ago, there was a Bible burning that did not receive international or even presidential condemnation. What’s the difference? What’s the thought pattern in this case?

Everyone’s behavior should be modified out of fear of violence from a certain group of people.

Yet – isn’t that the very definition of terrorism? (Yes, it is: “the state of fear and submission produced by the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce.”)

Will this empower the enemies of America in Afghanistan? Perhaps. It already has, and nothing has happened.

Will this endanger American civilians in Muslim countries around the world? Possibly.

Is it foolish to tempt a bully that is threatening violence against you? Perhaps. And that’s why the bully stays the bully. That’s why the mob wins. That’s why terrorism works.

The government of the United States is one that will pay someone $15,000.00 to take and popularize photos of a crucifix in urine, that will ignore Bible burnings, yet speaks out against anyone who does not submit to at least some of the commands of Islam.

Regardless of Rosie’s talking point, anyone who argues that this guy is a dangerous Christian extremist is saying that only because of what Muslim extremists will do. Anyone who argues that he should stop because of potential violent Muslim reactions is saying there is a difference between Christian and Muslim extremists.

 

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  • lori

    I like the way you’ve contrasted Christian extremism vs Muslim extremism. Although I see your point I feel like this Pastors decision to burn Korans could also go under how to fail at arguing. I find very sad that rather than pray for our enemies he is stooping to their level. It is like the extremist who bombs an abortion clinic in the name of saving lives. I learned I in kindergarten 2 wrongs don’t make it right. I also don’t think he should back down because of threats. I think he should not burn Korans because it is the right thing to do. Burning Korans in the name of Jesus or God is a misrepresentation of God and Jesus and the Bible. It is nationalized heresy.

    • I’m not clear on how he’s failed at arguing as I’m not sure what point he’s trying to make, so I can’t tell if he’s failing. 🙂 I’m also not sure how it is heresy, except from a Muslim perspective.

      I recognize that the Muslim tradition says it’s evil to defile a copy of the Koran. In Christian ethics, is it therefore wrong to get a Koran dirty, or destroy one? Christian tradition holds that the word of God is living and active, not merely words on paper – that it’s far more significant than that, so a dirty Bible isn’t a sin, because we don’t worship the paper the book is printed on. So… it’s wrong to mess with a Koran but not the Bible?

      I hadn’t heard that he doesn’t pray for his enemies. That wasn’t in any news reports that I read – maybe he’s given more interviews. There’s 3 arguments against this that I’ve heard:
      1. We’re afraid of how Muslims will react. (The terrorism that this post was about.)
      2. It’s just wrong to burn the Koran (whereas burning a Bible or other books is a-okay)
      3. It’s rude. Therefore it’s unchristian. Can’t we all just get along?!

      #1 – I already wrote about.

      #2 – I understand that Muslims believe that, because it’s part of their religion. They don’t believe it’s wrong to defile the Bible. I’m not clear on why we’re adopting Muslim theology in this area – we don’t get our ethics from the Koran, and I don’t expect my non-Christian co-workers and friends to get their ethics from the Bible.

      #3 – Ok, yes, it’s rude. It’s really rude. Muslims will take extreme offense to this and be mentally/emotionally hurt by this. But there is precedent for being rude in a challenge to an opposing theology/truth claim. When Elijah challenged the prophets of Baal and Baal didn’t answer them, for example:

      At noon Elijah began to taunt them. “Shout louder!” he said. “Surely he is a god! Perhaps he is deep in thought, or busy, or traveling. Maybe he is sleeping and must be awakened.”

      Saint Patrick challenged people’s beliefs by, if I remember correctly, chopping down a sacred tree or trees they worshiped.

  • Lori

    Maybe I’m reading into it but the failing at arguing is they destroy our things so we will destroy theirs…
    Heresy-to do this as a church puts God’s stamp on it.
    I can’t totally remember the Bible burning example, but any book burning to me …is sad…Bible, Koran, Harry Potter, Inconvenient Truth. The feeling I get about Muslims building a Mosque at ground zero, is the same when I read about Christians burning Korans.
    This isn’t a matter of a prophet taunting a false god-I believe in Elijah God instructed Elijah to build the 2 alters etc…Is God instructing this man to burn books?
    Again I’m not saying he should bow to terrorism, but I don’t see how this is right…maybe I’m alone on this one.

    As far as praying goes maybe he does pray for them everyday, but honestly when I’ve prayed everyday for someone who has hurt me, it makes it hard to want bad things to happen to them.

    Also not that we can speculate on this but what is the motivation of burning the Koran? To get attention-selfish To silence an idea-Nazi-ish To upset the Muslim community?
    What is gained for the Kingdom of God? How does burning the Koran bring people to Jesus?

  • Dan Green

    Heard this on the radio today,
    1. We’re afraid of how Muslims will react, so he shouldn’t be allowed to burn the Koran.
    What if they threatened to react the same way about gay marriage?

  • Joe Burras

    Cool. I haven’t had the same experience here in Kentucky, but I imagine that isn’t very suprising.

  • Jessi

    Do you mind if I use your site as a source in my paper? Thx! Jessi